#016: November 27th, 2017
Malcolm Gladwell and Rick Rubin Dive Into Music 📀📀📀
Rick Rubin: Legendary record producer who helped popularize hip-hop
Malcolm Gladwell: Author behind famed works like The Tipping Point and Outliers
Mutual interest: Music
Result: A brand new podcast
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If you enjoy Song Exploder or Switched on Pop, this podcast is right up your alley. It's described as “liner notes for the digital age” — basically a discussion about the various influences and processes that lead to the creation of a song.
In the first episode, Gladwell interviews Rubin and Eminem about the latter’s new track Walk on Water. The episode is all of 14 minutes, but you get to hear a deeply personal side of Eminem that he just doesn’t show very often.
Hope you like it,
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